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Again from Jane Tennison...an underling says to her"Yes Ma'am" and she reacts angrily by saying"Don't call me Ma'am!..call me governor or boss but not ma'am" Later in the series a male superior...

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Who was from where??? If you're trying to say that one was from Rio and the other wasn't, then say where the other one was from!!

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Quote:Soon enough one of them twigged and repeated it English style where the L is pronounced.In which strange dialect of English is the L in 'talk' pronounced?

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They were both from Rio. He had a classic (according to my wife, who lived in Brasil for 17 years and is fluent) Rio accent. She had a more standard Brasilian Portuguese.

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Quote:Edit: I just remembered a case of this working the other way when I was trying to discuss the band Talk Talk with my workmates. They kept asking who and I kept saying "Tock Tock." (Maybe not so...

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I hear no L in UK pronunciation, dialectal or not, of TALK. For those of use like me who haven't a clue what velarized whatsits are, could you please direct me to a site that pronounces them so that I...

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When I (in the US) pronounce talk, the L is swallowed, with the tongue touching the roof of the mouth toward the back. MWO has an audio file attached; if you plug in the word and then click the red...

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There is a book "English Spoken around the World". It is a rather dry tome; I suspect it was a Ph. D. thesis at some point.It catalogs all the differences found in the English ("correct" or not) of...

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Your link simply returns No arguments in request, dmg.Here's an amended one.Merriam Webster can be a real pain to link to. I've found from past experience that the simplest way to get a working link...

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Sorry about the dysfunctional link, and thanks for the tip, Aldi.

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CharleMangia,Both examples you gave fail for Australia and NZ:1. "solder" is always pronounced with the L - I had always assumed saying "solder" without pronouncing the L was either ignorance or...

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"solder" is always pronounced with the L - I had always assumed saying "solder" without pronouncing the L was either ignorance or affectation.I would say that this applies equally to the US with the...

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And here I always thought "chum-lee" was spelled Cholmondeley.Daf, I'd been convinced for many years now that I was probably the only native English speaker in the world who does pronounce the "l" in...

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Damon - I am surprised by #1. OK, then, we may need to demote you to the "lesser" colonies....#2 however is in agreement with my post above. India, Bermuda, Philippines...the "pidgin" English places...

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CharleMangia,#2: sorry, I thought you were implying that "take lunch" was a "main" variant.#1: This is interesting. I have been an Electronic Engineer for 15 years (plus 5 at Uni) here in Oz, and have...

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Wow, this is fascinating. I never had any idea that the word was pronounced other than SODDer (the US way). My Australian Oxford Paperback Dictionary gives only /sohl-duh/, so it's confirmed: the...

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Speaking for southern US engineers, the " L " has always been pronounced in solder as it has in walk and talk..

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My father, a New Yorker who actually did it, didn't pronounce the L. Took me ages to realise the connexion between what he said and the written form.In the UK I've never heard it pronounced without...

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Quote:although Fowler says, if my memory serves me, that whilst the OED considers the pronunciation without L an Americanism, he regards pronouncing the L as the preserve of the half-educated who want...

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The difficulty with being half-educated lies in determining precisely where that point occurs. Overshoot and you're five-eights educated. Also, does the 'half' refer to your personal capacity for...

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I've always loved the term "educated beyond his intelligence"

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